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Is the Average Penis Size Overestimated?


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Bruce, I'm 5'5" and I have a size 40 waist. I know, that seems huge, but trust me, after losing over 50 lbs, I've lost a lot of inches of my waist as well. I used to be a lot bigger.

 

I think I know what Outstanding is saying. In general, guys with small penises have inferiority complexes. We're afraid we won't measure up, be ridiculed, or rejected. I've had all of that (and more) happen to me in the past. Men with larger penises, in general, know they're large and therefore have more confidence in themselves. Some really don't know and either think they're small or have other issues to work through, but in general, if they know they're at least adequate in size, they don't have the mental hangups smaller men have. This enables them to approach and succeed more often with women. Therefore, these women will have had experiences with larger men and if (and when) a smaller man meets up with one of these women, she might be surprised by the size difference.

 

Of course, that's basing it all off a purely sexual relationship. When love and trust is involved, penis size rarely an important factor. In fact, in most studies performed, nowhere did women list penis size as a deciding factor they are looking for in a man. So this leads me to believe that most women, in all likely hood, if in a loving relationship, will not base their partner on his penis size. They are more likely to judge him on his other qualities.

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not completely outstanding. Not every good looking guy has a big dick? i seem to be able to attract very good looking women, yet i have a small cock. Attract being the key word =)

 

Fallout, i agree completely with that post.

 

Like a good friend of mine. Is a legend with the women, genetical hes been blessed he's good looking, tall and ive seen him faccid and he must have been about 5-6".

 

Its like he's just has this inner-self confidence and although he is fairly quiet he must have slept with over 30women easy.]

 

He's just completely self-secure which is no surprise. Appearance wise he doesnt really have anything to worry about. in all honestly ive never seen him get rejected and women always come back for more.

 

lucky shit =)

 

jonny, i even observed that in the locker rooms at school, showers werent compulsory(lucky me). but all the big dicked guys, just happened to be good with the ladies.. Well the majority.

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It like a vicious circle. If your secure about your appearance you date alot and if u get alot of positive feedback u then continue dating and go on in an upward spiral.

 

confidence breeds- confidence. If you have a smaller dick, u might get rejected a few times and then it tests your mental strength- goes for other physical attributes aswell i guess. Big dicked guys have it easy, but thats life.

 

Same as attractive girls have an easy time and plus im no better than the girls wanting big dicks as i like slim, attractive women although looks are quite low on my list these days just a bonus.

 

So in reality were all to blame, we cause all these insecurities ourselves.

 

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I must admit, this particular thread has me feeling a little bit better. I think about this sort of thing far too often. I've scoured the web for various polls and studies and such. While I understand, intellectually, that the only sites where my size is considered average or smaller-than-average are sites with self-reported numbers and/or those who either explicitly are trying to sell "enhancement" techniques or who get revenue from such advertisers, and that more scientific surveys that involved scientists doing the measuring ended up with smaller numbers, I still fear I'm not big enough. I think in large part it's not the averages themselves, but the concern that we won't measure up to our current or future partners' previous "encounters." That's what scares me. I've never had complaints, but even the one one-night-stand that I had, where she came (or at least made the sounds of coming) dozens of times (I'm not bragging, just including this information because I think it is useful after what I'm going to say), I later questioned. I thought of all the reasons she may have been faking. I've only had intercourse with three women, my current included, and even compliments (not on my size, though she says we're "a perfect fit" - and i wonder if she's "just saying that") I wonder about. And I think it's even affecting my ability to stay erect now. Arrrgh.

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First I have to say this is a great forum. As for overestimation, I think it is impossible to think otherwise. I too have received remarks about being “hung” which I naturally mistrusted or assumed were misguided attempts at flattery.

 

Now I am convinced that just as men underestimate their size because of the distance between their penis and their eyes and the angle at which it is observed, women more often than not overestimate size and have no basis whatsoever for the numbers they quote. They are flying blind and are usually just going along with what they have read and sadly most of that has glorified and romanticized penis sizes that are fantasy.

 

As for actual measurement, I think a good deal of the confusion comes from inaccuracy in taking the measurement. Throw in self-measure dishonesty and a real datum becomes almost impossible to find. Also it is critical to note not every erection is 100% extended. Nor is every one fully expanded so length and girth can be mis-measured even if the technique is right.

 

Also weight can alter measurements a great deal. Obesity causes the pad of fat at the base of the penis to literally swallow length. I doubt seriously the average length is over 6” although like many of us I believed Kinsey based averages all my life. Definitely overestimated.

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I'm stuck around 180 lbs. That's better than I was, but I need to be less than that. I really need to be about 160 or (better yet) 150 lbs.

 

Oh well. I'll just keep working on it.

Keep at it, Fallout, you'll be glad you did. I went from a flabby 250 to a firm 155, and, much to my surprise, my little friend looks so much better in the better environment. It even measures better. It may not actually be bigger, but it has helped my confidence a lot.
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Do any of you really think that your penis will look bigger if you lose a lot of weight? I have been hoping so but I have not seen much improvement. Since the start of November I have gone from 250 pounds and a 44 inch waist down to 206 with a 38 size waist. I am 5'8 tall, but have a large body structure (played defensive tackle in hs football if that gives any indication). Anyways, my target weight is 190....no I won't be Mr. Olympia, but I think I will at least look relatively decent. But i'm just disappointed, cause I really thought that when I lose this much weight my dick would look a lot bigger, and sadly, at least in my eyes, it really doesn't.....so just wondering what others experiences were. Sorry if this has been repeated a thousand times....

 

 

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I once made a thread about this, MSD23.

 

I've lost 60 lbs now. I went from 234 to 174. And to date, I have yet to see any noticable increase in visual size of my penis. My fatpad has remained (at least from what I can tell) just as large as when I was 234 lbs versus now at 174 lbs.

 

Granted, I figure I'm still about 24 lbs overweight, but that's a huge difference from being 84 lbs overweight. One would think there'd be some decrease of the fatpad and some visual increase of the penis during this amount of weight loss. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, there hasn't been.

 

I think one needs to get to their "correct" weight for their height in order for it to make a difference. Even then, I don't think there's any guarantee.

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I seen hundreds of cocks. I am gay male so I have been up close and personal with many. I think the average is actually bigger and most men are actually quite big. I think straight males think their cocks are small because they don't go comparing theirs to other erect males. Being gay I have so I know mine is small. But I find it strange that guys say theirs is average, but when I see it it's actually big.

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Are you concerned about the size of your penis? Don't worry, you're not alone. Almost every man has wondered how his penis compares to the average at one point or another.

Penis size, like many other facets of sex and anatomy, is a topic that leads to skewed conceptions of what is “normal.” To put it plainly, most studies of penis size around the world show that the average penis size is not as large as people might believe.

The typical flaccid penis measures 3.6 inches from base to tip, according to a study conducted by researchers at King's College London.

The typical man's diameter (the circular measurement around the penis) is approximately 3.7 inches soft.

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When it comes to circumference (the length around the penis), the average sizes flaccid and erect were 3.66 inches (9.31cm) and 4.59 inches (11.66cm), respectively.

Size Flaccid Length Erect Length Flaccid Circumference Erect Circumference
in 3.61 5.17 3.66 4.59
cm 9.16 13.12 9.31 11.66

 Compare that with the average of 6 inches that most men think is normal, and you can see that our sense of reality is a little distorted. So in this guide, we’re gonna be diving into penis research (awesome) to find out just how different the perception vs. reality of “average” size really is, as well as trying to figure out why we think the average size is so much bigger than it really is.

"IS MY PENIS SIZE NORMAL?"
Unrealistic expectations about penis size have spread like wildfire through mainstream media and pornography. Most dudes think that the 9 inch nuclear warheads they see in porn are normal and that their sub-9” penis is too small. It doesn’t sound like a big problem, but actually penis size is a common source of anxiety for men, and a surprising number of guys worry about whether or not their penis is big enough.

This is probably a good time to mention that, apparently, there’s a “massage” technique out there called “jelqing”. What is jelqing? Does jelqing work?

Jelqing is a technique that involves massaging the penis to improve blood flow and, supposedly, size. First thing to note is that the penis is most definitely not a muscle, so it can’t be “trained” in a way to increase its size.

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1 hour ago, britneyj21 said:

Compare that with the average of 6 inches that most men think is normal, and you can see that our sense of reality is a little distorted. So in this guide, we’re gonna be diving into penis research (awesome) to find out just how different the perception vs. reality of “average” size really is, as well as trying to figure out why we think the average size is so much bigger than it really is.

Here's the way I see it. "Average" is the number derived from all the hung studs and all the micro penises as well as a bunch of 5 and 6 inch penises added together and divided by the number of samples.

So if you had a sample of 4 men who were 6", 5.5", 7", and 3" the average would be 5.3". But you can clearly see that doesn't represent the actual size of the participants.

There are a LOT of men with small cocks...I'm one of them at 4.75". But I assure you there are just as many with big 6+" cocks. I've played with many men 7" or more. Biggest was 9". 

So if you have a 5" penis you may be "average", but there is a reason C students don't get on the Honor Roll. Average is not good, it's just "average". 

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1 hour ago, SloStroker said:

So if you have a 5" penis you may be "average", but there is a reason C students don't get on the Honor Roll. Average is not good, it's just "average". 

In school and College, I thought an average grade was tantamount to failing, but I was compensating for having a small dick, no puberty, looking like a girlie man, and no social life.

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1 hour ago, SloStroker said:

So if you had a sample of 4 men who were 6", 5.5", 7", and 3" the average would be 5.3". But you can clearly see that doesn't represent the actual size of the participants.

But that is a small sample that happens to come out to the average.  Large samples of dicks are pretty much a smooth, normal curve.  It is a little scewed to large because there is no theoretical limit to large, but they don't measure any dick as less than zero.  Above average and large guys tend to be more active, though.

Better feedback loop, I think, because women are more likely to "reward" their efforts with a female orgasm.

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If I can throw in my two cents....

The reality is that 5.1 to 5.25 to 5.5 are bigger values than everyone thinks they are here.....and the reason for that is that is a value taken from the top of the penis, not the side....not the bottom...and not bone pressed unless you have a lot of fat.

The reality as a urologists' described to me is that is most men period. A lot of guys online will measure from the side or the "top side" which is more accurate but not valid. Point that thing straight out, and measure from the top.

Now if you consider the fact that when you look at a member that size from the side, you'll get more of a view because its going to be more lik 5.75, and if from the bottom 6.1 to 6.5....and those aren't small measurements combine the perspective from the bottom, how it looks from the side, and how it looks from the top...in other words the whole object, and you will understand that that object is bigger than you thought, and EASILY mistaken for a "6 inch" intellectually lame observation. the 5 to 5.5 inch claim is entirely possible for average when you actually can fix your perception to understand what your actually looking at. Now is that a big cock..no but there is too much evidence suggesting that the average penis isn't 6 and above. Again get an actual grip on what your looking at and you'll get it. I don't have to go down the list of porn stars that have been measured at MUCH smaller than we thought. That should also provide some positive perspective.

So the answer, Yes its overestimated greatly, and the fact that women can be cruel and ununiformed and well..dare I say dishonest about what they see from you doesn't help either.

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On 1/1/2006 at 7:10 AM, RodEnuf said:

From reading the posts on this site, I've begun to believe that most women cannot estimate length. Maybe it's because girls aren't taught to sew any more. When a young woman tells her friends, "My boyfriend's dick is an 8 inch giant," she's probably mistaken.

This female problem with measurement can be explained by the old joke. When asked to demonstrate six inches, women separate their thumbs and fore-fingers four inches apart. Because their boyfriends have told them their cocks are six inches long.

Over at LPSG, the girlfriends separate their thumbs and fore-fingers by the same four inches when asked to demonstrate eight inches. It's all relative. 

 

BTW, when I was growing up, which wasn't that so long ago, everyone still said the penis was 6 inches long. It was only when I started coming on sites like this that I heard anyone say the penis was 5.2 inches. One of my roommates in college, a Christopher Reeve Superman body-builder lookalike, said his was 5 inches long, and, although he was now happy with it, thought it was small. Heck, he was just a rounding average away from being average. I shoulda known things weren't what they seemed. Once some of his body-builder friends came over. Somehow the subject came up. They bowled me over by being so open about things. They all -- except one -- admitted to being small. They were all in the five-inch range. The exception was six-inches exactly. A giant! I was the pygmy. 

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On 4/19/2021 at 2:30 AM, britneyj21 said:

This is probably a good time to mention that, apparently, there’s a “massage” technique out there called “jelqing”. What is jelqing? Does jelqing work?

Jelqing is a technique that involves massaging the penis to improve blood flow and, supposedly, size. First thing to note is that the penis is most definitely not a muscle, so it can’t be “trained” in a way to increase its size.

First of all, Britney, thanks for contributing. We always welcome new members and your perspective can be valuable.

As someone who has tried jelqing over an extended period, my experience is that it didn’t work for me. I don’t think it did any harm, but did not increase either flaccid or erect length. 

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On 4/21/2021 at 10:09 PM, TinyJock said:

This female problem with measurement can be explained by the old joke. When asked to demonstrate six inches, women separate their thumbs and fore-fingers four inches apart. Because their boyfriends have told them their cocks are six inches long.

Over at LPSG, the girlfriends separate their thumbs and fore-fingers by the same four inches when asked to demonstrate eight inches. It's all relative. 

 

BTW, when I was growing up, which wasn't that so long ago, everyone still said the penis was 6 inches long. It was only when I started coming on sites like this that I heard anyone say the penis was 5.2 inches. One of my roommates in college, a Christopher Reeve Superman body-builder lookalike, said his was 5 inches long, and, although he was now happy with it, thought it was small. Heck, he was just a rounding average away from being average. I shoulda known things weren't what they seemed. Once some of his body-builder friends came over. Somehow the subject came up. They bowled me over by being so open about things. They all -- except one -- admitted to being small. They were all in the five-inch range. The exception was six-inches exactly. A giant! I was the pygmy. 

I'm telling you right now....most guys are 5-6 inches long, measured from the top, and i dont know how many times i can harp on this until ppl on here get that. there's a link to the Wrestler weigh ins for college, and all those kids, even the mid eastern and african americans have about he sam -ish size....small....or what known as normal average. I was in the army and that's how the vast majority of guys looked. 

Wrestlers Spy Weigh In - XVIDEOS.COM for educational purposes

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1 hour ago, RAized said:

I'm telling you right now....most guys are 5-6 inches long, measured from the top, and i dont know how many times i can harp on this until ppl on here get that. there's a link to the Wrestler weigh ins for college, and all those kids, even the mid eastern and african americans have about he sam -ish size....small....or what known as normal average. I was in the army and that's how the vast majority of guys looked. 

Wrestlers Spy Weigh In - XVIDEOS.COM for educational purposes

All look big to me. 

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On 2/5/2006 at 3:26 AM, J------R said:

It like a vicious circle. If your secure about your appearance you date alot and if u get alot of positive feedback u then continue dating and go on in an upward spiral.

With little or not positive feed back from penetration, a downward spiral can develop.

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On 4/21/2021 at 10:09 PM, TinyJock said:

This female problem with measurement can be explained by the old joke. When asked to demonstrate six inches, women separate their thumbs and fore-fingers four inches apart. Because their boyfriends have told them their cocks are six inches long.

Over at LPSG, the girlfriends separate their thumbs and fore-fingers by the same four inches when asked to demonstrate eight inches. It's all relative. 

14 hours ago, RAized said:

I'm telling you right now....most guys are 5-6 inches long, measured from the top, and i dont know how many times i can harp on this until ppl on here get that. there's a link to the Wrestler weigh ins for college, and all those kids, even the mid eastern and african americans have about he sam -ish size....small....or what known as normal average. I was in the army and that's how the vast majority of guys looked. 

Wrestlers Spy Weigh In - XVIDEOS.COM for educational purposes

Just to make things clear. I wasn't questioning that the average penis is between 5-6 inches long. Most peg it at about 5.2 inches. I too wrestled and was in the Navy. Most guys are about the same (except myself and the jerk I can't stand! like the guy who just pinned me in the wrestling match!). I was addressing the commonly held belief that women (and many gays for that matter) overstate the size of the penis.

I did this through an old joke. Unfortunately, all too many misunderstand or don't get humor. Not only is satire what closes on Saturday night, as the playwright George S Kaufman ruefully observed, it's often taken literally. I keep reminding myself to use smilies more. But there's no equivalent IRL. I think I'm pretty good at guessing who'll pick up on a joke, but I still occasionally find myself trying to explain a pun to some totally perplexed and befuddled person. If a clerk instructs you to swipe your credit card and doesn't know the larcenous meaning of "swipe", making a crack like "Isn't that illegal?" will leave you trying to explain the difference. Usually you give up or he or she will act like they understand just to get you out of their hair. 

Luckily IRL I tend to be the strong, silent type, so it doesn't happen that much. That's mostly because I don't think of the killer line until much later. 

 

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