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12 hours ago, Triasco9.5 said:

I agree that a difference in size between father and son generates the potential for the dissonance you mention,  Over,  but no matter who has what, I think it's incumbent upon the father to make sure the son is both comfortable with his size and that he understands size isn't something chosen, earned, or necessarily inherited and,  as such,  is not something for which to blame or humiliate anyone. Do I think a father has the right to feel pride, envy, or concern about their son's size? Absolutely, because there are things men need to know about their penises regardless of the size and some things they need to understand about their size and limitations it may bring. And because of this, those feelings, while valid, should not stand in the way of the father doing his duty as a parent. Honestly, I expect the same of a single mother though, I say this mostly because I wish my father had been around to teach me such things rather than having to figure  much of it out on my own, despite my mother doing her best. 

 

My apologies for what I realize now is a rant. lol. 

I agree.  Thoughtful, not a rant!

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@Triasco9.5 I agree, any actual shifts in boys developing bigger and younger requires evolution, these evolutionary changes take centuries at least and not just one or two generations. 

What does make it seem like they are bigger younger is probably down to the internet. We can now see much more variety and find much more information in written, photographic and video form.

Younger and younger (or at least appear younger) boys seem to be creeping their way onto mainstream porn sites and this is due to the advent of smart phones. Boys can now privately photograph, video or even live stream on cam, the activities they do of a sexual nature and upload these quickly and easily. 20 years ago you'd have to sit at the family computer on the webcam when you're alone at home, hoping to god nobody walks in on you knocking one out to someone you've never even met over in somewhere like Croatia, who then turns out to be       Peter Fyle, an overweight and bespectacled 55 year old residing in Vietnam! 

Most boys doing this are the confident one's who are well endowed, which in turn fuels this misconception of bigger and younger. I've seen boys on well known sites who are clearly not of a legal age wanking away on an endowment I can only dream of ! But I know these are the minority of boys and not the majority. 

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Doesn't have to be evolutionary - can be environmental.  Increasingly early onset of puberty is an increasingly well-documented phenomena, as show by this article:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/04/why-is-puberty-starting-younger-precocious

...which quotes a number of aggregate studies internationally.  Some of this is due to more people having a better standard of living - deprivation can delay puberty.  But the implication would be that boys would be larger, younger, but end up pretty much the same in the end!

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On 9/30/2018 at 3:04 AM, LouisZ said:

At the pool where i swim I saw several boys that looked prepubescent and were already at 4" soft.

And they saw me, with an innie from the pool water.

While I don't think this is exactly common, I'm with you: They're definitely out there and it is more than a little jarring to see it!

At my flaccid size, I'm used to being smaller than almost anyone, including pre-pubescent boys, and I've been in enough locker/changing rooms to see evidence of that.

The most jarring experience, though, came a couple years ago, when I was at a busy street/holiday festival. As with most such things, public restrooms were scarce, and so as I walked out of a shop that night, there was a man tugging his toddler son's pants down so that he could pee in the gutter at the edge of the street. Nobody seemed to bat an eye. I guess I didn't either until I noticed how big the kid was. At least three inches soft. And there's no way he was older than 5. I was so shocked that I did stare for a few seconds but quickly snapped myself out of it and walked past. Good for him, though!

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@topdog Yes I'd definitely agree with environmental changes, lifestyle and advances in public health can bring about earlier onset of puberty, it was penis size getting bigger I was referring to in terms of evolutionary changes. It would have helped if I had explained in more detail with my reply! 

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I echo @topdog's comment about @Red Scott's posts - always enjoy reading his stuff.

As for the topic at hand - from those first "mandatory shower" days at school until I was in my early forties, I had ample opportunity to observe nude males.  Admittedly, in the later years, I saw younger boys much less frequently.  But I never noticed much difference in those 30 or so years.  However, I wasn't all that interested, either.

I suspect, however, that if I were to start going to a gym again now (20 years later), I would no doubt notice a change.  On the other hand, with the changes in society's acceptance of nudity even in locker rooms, showers and saunas, I might never see a boy or teen or young adult naked.  It'd probably only be other geezers my age - those of us who know we won't die if someone see us naked (and vice versa).

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It's been a long time since I've seen a young male naked (saw a multitude back in the 60's-80's), but just this past summer did get to see a 9yo great-nephew when we were changing into swim trunks. Holy Wow, he was as 'hung' as I was at 15! He's not a tall kid, nor stocky at all for his age, but genital-wise, impressive, even sporting a fine bush all around the base of his penis! He wasn't shy at all, contrary to all the current generational homophobia I sense (open showers done away in schools - all individual stalls). Anyway, my guess, his flaccid penis was a good four inches long and a little bigger around than my thumb! The new 'current' size for his age these days?

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@Triasco9.5 and how many times do we hear the "tall equals hung" myth! Penis size has no correlations to other body parts nor a given age!

Some prepubescent boys can be born with a larger than usual penis and go on to have the same in adulthood whilst some boys have a normal penis during childhood and get into adulthood with a large penis. Even boys whom aren't early bloomers can end up hung. It's all down to genetics at the end of the day. 

You're either "destined" to be hung or you're not and either way it doesn't have to dictate your path through life. 

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On 11/11/2018 at 4:50 PM, Red Scott said:

@billinny it's like the link to the nudist protest group in California that a member posted with that prepubescent kid next to his mum and brother, that kid had me shocked as I didn't know a child could possess such a size! Some kids I guess are simply born big! 

Scary thing is I’ve seen much bigger. Not sure what’s causing it or if it’s just the internet making more exposure

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1 hour ago, Triasco9.5 said:

@Sed275 Likely a combination of both. As others have pointed out, things we ingest have pushed puberty earlier and earlier, and with the internet making it easier and easier to share everything and anything, it stands to reason that we'll see more and more. 

I’d imagine. Guys can post their huge cocks all over the place now and the hormones in food cause boys to hit puberty real early on which in turn overdevelops the genitals causing some crazy results.

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On 10/29/2018 at 3:46 AM, topdog said:

Some of this is due to more people having a better standard of living - deprivation can delay puberty.  But the implication would be that boys would be larger, younger, but end up pretty much the same in the end!

How about the hormones and other additive in the more generous food supply, esp. meat and milk?

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Just did some quick research on this, and it seems to be a myth, especially on dairy where some good independant research has been done.  The only evidence I can find is the worry about 'feminising' hormones in some water supplies which can affect some fish.  But as so few contributors on Measurection are fish, I'm not going to worry too much about that...

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8 minutes ago, topdog said:

Just did some quick research on this, and it seems to be a myth, especially on dairy where some good independant research has been done.  The only evidence I can find is the worry about 'feminising' hormones in some water supplies which can affect some fish.  But as so few contributors on Measurection are fish, I'm not going to worry too much about that...

So what’s causing boys do enter puberty so early?

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Doesn't have to be evolutionary - can be environmental.  Increasingly early onset of puberty is an increasingly well-documented phenomena, as show by this article:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/04/why-is-puberty-starting-younger-precocious

...which quotes a number of aggregate studies internationally.  Some of this is due to more people having a better standard of living - deprivation can delay puberty.  But the implication would be that boys would be larger, younger, but end up pretty much the same in the end!

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Kids being fatter helps their bodies enter puberty earlier. They have excess hormones, etc from an evolutionary standpoint that triggers them develop to be able to breed. Since healthy well fed youth indicates a robust available food supply.

From growing up and being aroung a lot of large families that camp etc I see nude kids every year.

The chubby boys do see to develop faster. I remember my pubic hair growing when i was in 5th grade between 11-12. I have always been a little chubby/fat and still have a spare tire lol.

Some of my nephews and cousins just got caught at a sleepover looking at PPV porn in the man cave, and they were between 9-14.

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Only girls seem to be affected by the link between obesity and early onset of puberty.  To quote an American doctor...

What about boys? So far, there's no evidence that obesity raises the odds of early puberty for them. "Boys who are obese actually tend to hit puberty later than average," says Jami Josefson, MD, a pediatric endocrinologist at Children's Memorial Hospital in Chicago.

 

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9 hours ago, topdog said:

Only girls seem to be affected by the link between obesity and early onset of puberty.  To quote an American doctor...

What about boys? So far, there's no evidence that obesity raises the odds of early puberty for them. "Boys who are obese actually tend to hit puberty later than average," says Jami Josefson, MD, a pediatric endocrinologist at Children's Memorial Hospital in Chicago.

 

Yeah, that is what I thought as well.  Estrogen is associated with fat, not testosterone.   Most chubby boys seemed to me less developed than others.

I was very very late experiencing puberty and, then, it was glacially slow. 

My only theory is that it was environmental or psychological.

My mother was an amphetamine user during pregnancy, started dipping into my father's supply during wwII.  It was given out like candy during the war.  I've read amphetamines are T agonists.  Can't seem to find a set of symptoms to explain this weird puberty except xxy chromosomes for which I have never been tested.  I'm missing most of the usual symptoms for that.

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