Guest Posted November 27, 2002 Report Posted November 27, 2002 We have all read the so-called Asian and black myths about dick size and some here dispute that as having no validity whatsoever. But I would like to hear from our Asian members what their opinion is about what they perceive as the average length of their fellow Asian race. I have been in correspondence back and forth with a nice guy who lives in Singapore and he says his is 5". And, furthermore he says that the average he has seen for Chinese (which he is) is 4". He is gay and age 25 and has had many Chinese sexual partners. He is considered "large" comparatively speaking in Singapore, although, no doubt, there are probably others who are larger than he. And, no doubt there are others who are smaller than 4". As to what the average is for Chinese, I have no earthly idea. But since he is Chinese I thought it would be an interesting discussion. If we have Asians here who will speak up and share info with us, it could enlighten us. An Asian member of Measurection is more likely to think he himself is on the small side, but more what I think many would be interested in is that Asian members' perception of what he thinks the "average" length of his race......i.e., if he is Japanese what does he think the average is of Japanese men. Or Chinese....Thai....etc. -- speaking from his own experience sexually. I am one who is and always has been in awe of the Asian peoples of the world. Particularly, I find Asian men to be irresistibily sexy and highly intelligent. I would love to get to know Asian men, but have not prior to now. I think Asian men in general are amazed at my height (6'4") and surely must wonder if my dick is 12" -- LOL. They would be so amazed to find otherwise. The car I drive is Japanese and it is the highest rated vehicle in the world -- a true example of the intelligence and ingenuity of the Japanese people. And, if any Asian men want to meet me, please feel free to contact me anytime! Quote
kaalokuloku Posted November 27, 2002 Report Posted November 27, 2002 Rick: Well, I am part asian, being Chinese-Samoan-Hawaiian, and growing up in Hawaii, I've seen a lot of asian penises in locker rooms, showers, etc., even a few hard ones. There are surprises, of course, but the typical asian penis tends to short to button-like when flacid, especially on larger-bodied asian men (e.g., 5'7" 185+ lbs) the more slightly built guys show a lot of variation, but tend to hang 2-3" when soft, and 4-5.5" when hard, with a narrow shaft and much wider knob. Of course you do run into some stallions. I've seen a couple of taller Korean and Chinese men who were really well hung, and of course with all the ethnic mixing in Hawaii a little bit of portuguese in the mix can really change things! Of course, us Polynesians (e.g., island people from the Pacific, within the triangle formed by Easter Island, New Zealand and Hawaii -- folks like Samoans, Tahitians, Hawaiians, Maoris, etc.) we all stem from SE Asia long ago and share some of the Asian pattern. We tend to be short-cocked, but because we have been selected for warfare and long cold trans oceanic voyages, we tend to be big bodied and generally thick, men and women both. this applies to our penises as well -- they tend to be quite thick, often well above average thick. I've seen hundreds of Hawaiian and Samoan and Tongan penises and most of us also tend to the 4-6" range, but one exception is interesting: there is a story in Hawaii about the menehune, a "short people" who were thought to be magical, and were very industrious, building huge things like walls and canals overnight, etc. And among their qualities was that they were supposed to be very impressive sexually. "Normal" Hawaiian women would want menehune husbands, but menehune wanted only to keep to themselves. Well, among the many Hawaiians I've seen, there is a category that includes very short statured (5' - 5' 5") men with powerful limbs, rather unpleasant facial features (very wide and unusually flattened noses, and very fierce but bright eyes under jutting brows), and just amazingly big penises. There is even a Hawaiian saying that goes "upepe, ma`i nui" (squashed nose, huge hose) that applies perfectly to them, so its been noticed for probably over a thousand years! Anyway, once I was at a sports camp, and one of the wrestlers was a menehune-type guy. When he was soft he didn't show too much, maybe only 1.5 - 2" and sticking straight out, except it was thick and very dark, being so compressed. But one morning he and I were both slow getting out of our sleeping bags, for the same reason -- we were waiting for our early morning hard-ons to go away first, but they wouldn't go away, so we waited until noone was in the space on the way to the bathroom/showers and we sneaked over. My erection pushed up a tent in my loose PE shorts that we all wore by way of underwear, but HIS erection made this massive tower in his shorts that pulled his shorts tight across his butt. His penis must have been 8 or 9" long, and I had to whisper to him "Oh brah, you get one huge one!" [forgive the Hawaiian pidgin - I slip in and out of it as I am spoken to] and he just grinned real wide as we got into separate toilet stalls to piss. So anyway, while the "asian" tendency is as I described (at least in my experience), the exceptions are out there. The nice thing in Hawaii is that most of us are modestly endowed, so the public shower shame is much less intense. Aloha, Ioane Quote
Hart Posted November 27, 2002 Report Posted November 27, 2002 Howdy Ioane ! I was dying to say 'Aloha' ... would that have been OK? Thank you for sharing that fascinating information. I think it's fantastic that you're here and willing to give us a look at a culture about which most of us, sadly, know very little. I feel as if you're offering us mini-lessons in history and anthropology, with some hot sexology thrown in for good measure! Regards, Hart P.S. How common is circumcision in your part of the world ? If you'd like to talk about it, please start a thread in the "Foreskin Afficianado" forum. Thanks! Quote
JTT Posted November 27, 2002 Report Posted November 27, 2002 Good topic Rick. We get the most traffic from Asian countries believe it or not. However they remain silent. We'd love to hear from those cuties. Quote
Guest Posted November 27, 2002 Report Posted November 27, 2002 I always enjoy reading everything you write. It's as if your profession should be in journalism rather than a construction worker (not that there is anything wrong with that though). Are you college educated? You certainly write with skills much better than most people I know with degrees. Thank you for your insight. We are indeed lucky to have your presence here. Quote
Guest CharlieBear Posted November 27, 2002 Report Posted November 27, 2002 I'll have to ask my Asian camera buddies to visit here. (Some of them may be amoung the silent.) I hate to get scientific on you again, but the size ranges I quote from 4.9 to 5.9 -- the 4.9 was from a study in Hong Kong. The 5.9 was from Brazil. The African study was 5.6. Quote
canuck45 Posted November 27, 2002 Report Posted November 27, 2002 Bear: Get as scientific as often as possible and as often as needed. Myths are debunked by emperical data not anecdotes. Keep the science coming......................... do you still have the link for that particular study. Quote
JTT Posted November 27, 2002 Report Posted November 27, 2002 I think Bear posted the study in the library. Quote
kaalokuloku Posted November 27, 2002 Report Posted November 27, 2002 Mahalo Rick: I was wooed by both my English teachers and my PE teachers when I was in high school, to pursue writing and to pursue football. My Chinese-Hawaiian grandparents were very high on scholarship, and my Samoan immigrant family also looked to education as the key to success in the US, but had no experience on how to pursue that effectively, being so FOB (fresh off da boat). Lucky for my Chinese side of the family, who had a long history of "how to learn" advice for me...and Chinese grandparents who knew how to intimidate me with my obligations to elders, even after I outweighed them by 100 pounds. God bless them! I do fine in construction, because I have the body to handle the demands of that, for now at least. I also have the brains to help the supervisors and contractors get what they need out of the project team, so I am in demand on projects all over the islands. I think I like that a lot. But I also enjoy the relaxing presence of my fellow construction workers (lots of big Samoans and Hawaiians there!), and can relate at that level entirely as well. Hell I got two different women pregnant when I was younger and not so adept at family planning, married neither, but maintain relationships with both of them and my two sons. So I am a blend of in the dirt/ in your face construction worker, but with a small chinese man inside my soul who wants to analyse everything and gets a chance to every now and then. This place is a good example, and I am thankful for it... Happy Thanksgiving everybody! Ioane Quote
kaalokuloku Posted November 27, 2002 Report Posted November 27, 2002 Aloha Hart: Aloha is always appropriate, as it is an expression of compassion for another human being. Aloha defines as "love, sympathy, empathy, compassion, shared fondness, mercy, kindness, charity, veneration, greeting" So it can be used coming or going, and in occasions happy or sad. I am a rarity: a Samoan who is uncircumcised. Had I been pure Samoan this would certainly never have happened, but I am Chinese-Hawaiian-Samoan, and my Chinese-Hawaiian side was of a mind to keep me intact as a baby. I was teased a little about it growing up, but once I got big the teasing stopped, and because I was rather ashamed of how different I was from most others growing up, I never pulled on my foreskin to make it bigger, but instead, tended to pull it back over my knob so I would appear "cut" with the effect that most people don't think I am uncut when I do this. I am barely long enough when soft to manage it, but there it is... Even today, when I urinate, I pull the foreskin all the way back off my knob before sticking my penis out of my fly. Just a habit. I see more and more uncut men in showers these days, but when I am showering with my Samoan friends, the knob is showing! Ioane rockslyde 1 Quote
Guest CharlieBear Posted November 27, 2002 Report Posted November 27, 2002 One of the studies -- the University of California at San Francisco medical school study is in the library, and the data are linked to this article here. Dr. Dean Edell Article However, I had all the other studies I referred to -- the Hong Kong, a Kenya study, one from Italy, and two from Brazil, and those were lost in a crash of my hard disk shortly after I got my new computer last year, and I have not been able to find them again. Quote
bkfchung Posted November 28, 2002 Report Posted November 28, 2002 I am a chinese guy from Hng Kong, I've seen a lot of chinese when their cock were hard.I thank the averge size of chinese is about 4.5" x 4.2". The smallest one I've seen is about 3" and the bigger one is six something. I thank what the result mentioned by bear is a bit high for the Hong Kong guys. Because, the small guys are shy to go for the studies. And we've been told by the older boy that the averge size of chinese is 5" when we were little boy. So, when a chinese boy have a penis short then 5" will thank he got a small penis and shy to show or tell other guys. DavidL 1 Quote
Smallwun Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 It's about time I posted again! This topic is right up my alley. I will post my extended bio eventually, but in short, I am of Chinese origin and I was born in Canada. I am slightly tall by Asian norms, 5'10" (178cm), 150 lbs (68 kg), but I am smaller than the 4.5-5.0", which I believe to be average for Asians. (I'm about 3.5" on a good day!) I agree with Ioane when he describes the "Asian" tendency towards being short to button-like when flacid. And in general, I would also say Asian penises tend to have less girth in the shaft. But Rick, you're right. It's very important for Asians to know that some of the average statistics being quoted may not necessarily be appropriate for their ethnicity. We should also remember that there is a tendency for lesser-endowed men to avoid participation in size surveys, though good studies would have taken this issue into account. But most importantly, we should all learn to be comfortable with our dicks (whether small or large, cut or uncut, thin or thick) and not be embarrassed or ashamed! -Eddie Quote
liao Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 For the scientific side: Han Jungho, Park Sanghwa, Lee Bongsam and Choi Sangun, "Erect penile size of Korean men." Venerology 12(4) 135-139. reports 126.6 mm for length and 107.5 mm for shaft girth. Size of study 279 Chung KM. "A study on the penile size of Korean men." Korean Journal of Urology 1971: 12:75-8. reports 127 mm for length and 110.6 for girth of glans. Size of study 702 Yoon JS, Lee GH, Chang DS. "The relationship between ehight and body weight and penile size in university students." Korean Journal of Urology 1998: 39: 1061-1064. reports 134 mm for length and 112 mm for shaft girth. Size of study 150 Park K, Kim SW, Lee IW, Park K, Kim SW, Paick J-S. "The penile nomogram in Korean males." Korean Jouranl of Andrology 1998: 16: 153-158. reports 118.8 mm for length and 121 mm for shaft girth. Size of sutdy 309. Zhongguo xingkexue baike chuanshu 中國性科學百科全書 China encyclopedia of sexology Beijing 1998 reports a study of nearly 2000 medical students with the average length being around 124 mm. I apologize that I do not have the actual figures in front me. I will try to find them later tonight and cite them along with the page number of the book. There are also other studies dealing with the penile length of newborn babies from various countries. A recent article proposes that the definiton of micropenis in newborns be weighted according to ethnicity. (Cheng PK, Chanoine, JP. Should the definiton of micropenis vary according to ethnicity? Hormone Research. 2001 55(6)278-281. Conclusion: Mean penile length and diameter are slightly but significantly smaller in newborns of Chinese origin compared to newborns of Caucasian and East-Indian origins.) There are other Chinese and Japanese studies I could cite if people are interested and if I can find where I placed them. An interesting observation on the measurement and comparison of shaft girth with glans girth is the notion often encountered that East Asian men have large glans. Quote
funguy Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 A task for ADRIAN to convert all the MM's into inches.. Where r u when we need u ADRIAN?? Quote
canuck45 Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Conversions Han Jungho, Park Sanghwa, Lee Bongsam and Choi Sangun, "Erect penile size of Korean men." Venerology 12(4) 135-139. reports 126.6 mm for length and 107.5 mm for shaft girth. Size of study 279 4.79 x 4.2 Chung KM. "A study on the penile size of Korean men." Korean Journal of Urology 1971: 12:75-8. reports 127 mm for length and 110.6 for girth of glans. Size of study 702 5 x 4.35 134 mm for length and 112 mm for shaft girth. Size of study 150 5.2 x 4.4 Park K, Kim SW, Lee IW, Park K, Kim SW, Paick J-S. "The penile nomogram in Korean males. 118.8 mm for length and 121 mm for shaft girth. Size of sutdy 309. 4.6 x 4.7 y Beijing 1998 reports a study of nearly 2000 medical students with the average length being around 124 mm. 4.8 Total inches 16677 total men 3440 average 4.85 Quote
wishitwerebigger Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Total inches 16677 /quote] WOW.. thats ALOT of COCK !! 1,389 + feet long. That is taller than the SEARS Tower in Chicago. I am not sure I'd want to be in the same State or Province if it ever CUM! Wish Quote
kaalokuloku Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 WoW! amazing to see the statistics and metric conversions going on here. You mentioned Japanese studies. I'd be very curious to see if similarly careful studies of Japanese medical students would show the same range of sizes. Korea is a much colder place than Japan. Any statistics from warmer asian places, like Vietnam, Malaysia, Phillipines? I know it is too much to ask for studies of Polynesian penis size, we are just too shy! Ioane Quote
Guest CharlieBear Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Liao, thanks for a great post and for the information. Now I can retire and let a real expert take over. These studies comfirm the others I have referred to and also tend to confirm the preception that Asian cocks are smaller. I had seen only the one Asian study which I referenced. Liao, do you have studies from other countries? Also do you have links to the studies you quote? I would love to include them in our library. Quote
Kirk Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Adrian, you are our own (Inter) National treasure....what would we do without you??? Quote
liao Posted November 30, 2002 Report Posted November 30, 2002 Bear, Unfortunately, I do not have links to the Korean studies. They are in Korean (except the one in Venerology), so they may not have a large readership here. If links should become available I'll let you know. The same is true for the Chinese study. Actually, I have not found the Chinese study itself only the report in the China Encyclopedia of Sexology (Zhongguo xingkexue baike quanshu). I could post the Chinese text of that if you would like. I do know of some other studies for Japan and Thailand but I do not have them at hand now. One of the problems encountered in obtaining this information is many of these medical journals are not indexed in Medline but in their own country-specific medical indexes. This makes it time consuming to track them down. I am looking forward to the new Indian study that is now being conducted to help with better condoms. They are looking at over 2000 men and plan to present the data by region. Although there will be questions of accuracy regarding the regional breakdown, nonetheless it will be interesting to see. Quote
Guest CharlieBear Posted November 30, 2002 Report Posted November 30, 2002 Liao, I am afriad the studies in other languages will not help me. I am liguistically impared. I can't even speak Spanish, which allows my Spanish-speaking friends to talk about me in front of me. However, please continue to follow these trails for us and post anything your find (in English, that is.) Quote
Minidick Posted December 1, 2002 Report Posted December 1, 2002 Hi all, This probably won't help you find the answer you're looking for. Whatever the average may be, I am 3.75". My cousin who hails from Singapore has 8.5". Quote
Guest CharlieBear Posted December 1, 2002 Report Posted December 1, 2002 Hi all, This probably won't help you find the answer you're looking for. Whatever the average may be, I am 3.75". My cousin who hails from Singapore has 8.5". He is the exception that proves the rule Quote
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