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@WA1NGRO I agree with and appreciate almost everything in your post. I will caveat one thing though, and that is the idea that she doesn't like oral just because she hasn't had good experiences with. While that may be true and worth exploring depending on the relationship, I'd be wary of comparing her to others in such a way. People are people, and some have tendencies like the average person and others don't in varying degrees. Also, clitoral stimulation isn't a blanket sensation in sure. Just like there's a very real difference in sensation between tongue and fingers on cock or in anus. There's even a difference between my fingers and the fingers of others. or the difference between orifices that I can feel with my cock. I'd be wary of oversimplifying the sensation or experiences of others. For instance, I'm not a fan of receiving oral. I've had good experiences and bad experiences with receiving it, but it ultimately comes down to me not enjoying the act itself. It's harder to explain in detail, and it may be the same for her. And few things are more annoying than someone telling me that I'm odd for it or that I just haven't had the right oral experience. Another example: I don't enjoy kissing. It's not psychological or because I haven't been kissed in the right way. I just do not experience the same sensation and emotion that others do from the act. I agree communication is key; understanding is what's most important. If she's willing to explain and explore why she doesn't like oral, then go for it. If not just respect the fact that she doesn't as a part of her body and who she is.

There's no shame in buying dildos and/or using fingers on her. I think a lot of men would probably feel inadequate for using a dildo instead of their own dick, but why should they? Sex is about pleasure. If a dildo can provide pleasure, then why not use it? It's one of the reasons why I think that dick size is basically irrelevant in this day and age. Let me write up a small paragraph to convince you that dildos are objectively more physically pleasurable than any real cock. Think about it. You can customize a dildo to the perfect size, shape, and material of your choosing. They can rotate and twist in novel ways. There are dildos with pumps that can expand inside. Some dildos spin or vibrate with batteries. All of those things can create sensations that a real dick can't emulate. Even if you had a cock that you thought was absolutely perfect, I think it's still worth exploring the world of toys, for the above stated reasons, and also just for added adventure in the bedroom. I think communication is the key to everything though. Talk it over with her, if you haven't already, and be honest. Tell her your concerns about potentially not pleasing her and that you want to get her off by using toys, fingers or by eating her out. That's another thing. It would be highly unusual for a woman to completely not like receiving oral. It's possible, but I think what's more likely is that she just hasn't had good experiences with oral in the past. Because the thing is, clitoral stimulation is clitoral stimulation; whether you're doing it with a vibrator, fingers, or a tongue. The vast majority of women orgasm through clitoral stimulation, so again, it would be highly unusual for her to not like that. Maybe try watching some videos on pussy eating technique, or simply ask your wife to coach you, which could be a fun experience in and of itself. Just tell her you want to please her and you want to try eating her out, and you know that she hasn't liked it in the past, but you want to try and see if you can change her mind. Then surprise her with all the techniques you learned from watching videos. Realize that you can have a fantastic sex life, regardless of what kind of body you have. Anyway, that's my two cents. Oh and one more thing. Make sure you're getting taken care of yourself. After all, sex is about mutual pleasure.

I have a group of friends since i was 17. We have seen each other naked a lot of time. I have the smallest dick of this group. But nobody ever made a comment on dick size. This is not a subject that will change our friendship. I have learned the problem is more between the ears than between your legs.

Im trying to lose the weight I’m on the keto diet I lost 7 pounds so far

In early 2000s when I was in college out west in a large metro, I remember an unexpected encounter: I was in the fitness center complex open showers after a workout and a slim Asian guy looked to be late 20s (possible grad student) came in and showered a few feet away. I didn't think anything of it and continued to wash myself off as normal but when I turned around to rinse back, he was looking at me with a dark hairy HUNG uncut hard-on. I stayed calm but totally found the scene erotic as he occasionally stroked self while washing and soaping his bod off with no hesitation -- he had to be 8 inches and thick... I was about 20 at time and scared we would be caught so I continued as normal and his hard cock stayed hard and pointed straight out. I was also embarassed since I am on the small grower side and was soft and also on display to him. I wished I were bigger and even if I got hard that moment, he would see I was still smaller than his endowment. Thankfully no one else came in or walked by because the pool door was by the shower... For me, He definitely killed stereotype about all having small cocks. Ha ha. Never saw him again but memorable sight of a guy!

Well teens often don't have high levels of self-esteem, they are still discovering themselves and looking for answers. They are in their formative years and still learning to be rational thinkers, but in reality overly emotion reactionary beings.... Where do you find answers about sex and sexuality? ...from uninformed friends, the media (in my day playboy, letters in FORUM). Distorted 1/2 truths is the source for most teens because proper education is sadly missing. Who are the role models...Kardashians? The issue of body image was addressed in one short blurb from my PE teacher in Grade 8. His lecture: Everyone has to shower after PE. You will see a lot of differences in your bodies. Some of you may have started puberty and your penises come in all shapes and sizes, they are all normal and I will not tolerate anyone talking or laughing at some one else. If the media says 5'11" with a 6.5" penis, how does a 5'5" person with a 2" flaccid penis develop self-esteem and self-worth. Teens are still impressionable kids, not miniature adults with logical reasoning skills (hell 1/2 the adults fail at critical thinking) As adults, yes we can "correct" the information rationally but it is not easy to change a mindset. Better would be to have developed a mindset based on "reality" (informed factual teaching) in the formative years. So yes I blame media AND the education system.

You raise some valid points, I've sometimes posted about the effects of porn on so many people since it is so easily accessible these days. Body image for both young men and women is distorted not only by porn, but by the endless wannabe influencers online who portray unrealistic ideals of perfection... usually with the aid of Photoshop. It's leaving many young people feeling inadequate and giving them low self esteem. As @Triasco9.5 says, the portrayal of healthy relationships on social media, music and videos is woeful. Women objectified with little or no respect, sexuality brought into question. Schools and parent need to be realistic about 21st century attitudes. Many schools refuse to address these issues for fear of offending someone. Channel 4 in the UK did a short series a few years ago about Sex Education, they had a variety of nude "normal" models (varying in age and gender) appearing to teenagers via video link. Many had never seen a normal body, the influence of porn was often mentioned. Boys feeling inadequate because they didn't measure up, girls not having hourglass figures and huge fake tits... Both ended up with unrealistic expectations of the opposite sex.

I agree and disagree. On the one hand, I agree that the porn industry and its depiction of sex and sexuality can and does have negative effects on our perception and reception of sex and one another as sexual beings. However, I disagree that porn is the problem. Like books, or movies, or video games, the medium is only half of the story. Our reaction to it is more a symptom of the larger issue, which is a general lack or ineffective education system for sexuality. Speaking for my opinion on American society specifically, we don't talk or teach about sex or sexuality in a healthy and productive way, and then we have the nerve to be surprised when people develop unhealthy attitudes and appetites navigating the waters on their own. To that end, I think the solution is education, for everyone but especially for the younger generations. Most of us already have our issues and have to work to overcome them, but the young are the ones who can change the culture, who will be the be new culture regarding sex and sexuality.

I'm hung like a chipmunk. Many of the women I've slept with have probably been unsatisfied with my size but for some reason have stuck around. I've always felt I made up for my shortcomings in other ways. If not, it's time to move on. Speaking of moving on, canuck45 mentions he goes kayaking. Is that like "It's not the size of the boat but the motion in the ocean"? I'd give that a try. Speaking of boats, I was in the Navy. I had a gay friend who used to sing a song to me whenever we showered together at the gym. It went something like "You've got the cutest little dinghy in the Navy."

Agree with pfm. I'm hung like a chipmunk and have an attitude.

As someone with a 5 inch penis, I’ve been surprised in both directions in just how big or small a man’s penis can be relative to mine. I’ve been with guys that were nearly twice my size in length and thickness, and I’ve also been with a guy whose penis was about the size of my thumb. The diversity of penis sizes is amazing.

I remember being very surprised as well as being very confused the first time I saw an uncircumcised penis. I saw it up close. I had not turned twelve yet. He was fifteen, I think. Not only was his the largest penis I had ever seen up until that time he also had pubic hair. I had never even heard about uncircumcised penises before much less seen one, hence my confusion. I remember thinking that there was a LOT of extra skin on his thing. After him giving me a brief explanation I was instructed to get on with the task at hand, lol.

@NuderThanNude I guess one thing is science and other pop culture. In pop culture big flaccid means big erect and small flaccid means small erect. That's not true or at least has lots of excepctions, but you really don't see that being acknowledged in any casual conversation. You really have to specifically talk about it for people to realize it.

@TinyJock I’ve never known a chipmunk that didn’t have an attitude. Look at Alvin!

Small and frustrated? I’m certainly small but I’m pretty sure my wife is more frustrated about it than even I am.

Do you guys remember the first time you put a condom on? I sure do! I had a buddy that worked in a drug store that was my pusher. Back in the 60s access was not like it is today, you had to actually ask the pharmacist for them. My pusher buddy would snag some for me. It took me a while to figure out which fit my girth the best. I wish I could remember what Trojan model it was. Anyway, I was 15 and there was this girl that I had been dating and she told me I could fuck her with a condom. I told my buddy I needed some condoms. He got me a sack of like six different kinds. Of course, before the big event I needed to put one on for practice. So I tear the foil off and proceed to roll it down over my dick head. It was so tight but I figured that was how they were supposed to be. I got it rolled all the way down and "shit" there was a lot of condom left to roll. All I could think was how short my dick must be to others and what my girlfriend would think when she saw the surplus condom. Has anyone else had a similar naive fear? To this day I have letting a woman see the surplus condom around the base of my dick. What reminded me of this is that my lady friend shared with me that she had never had sex with a condom and asked that we do. So I got out my stash and we headed to bed. She got the old guy good and hard and selected a Kimono condom, rolled it over my dickhead and down my shaft. At this time I must inform you that I'm just the third guy to tuck her and hasn't seen many dicks. She asks "Are some guys a lot longer than you?" I knew that can roll at the base of my dick got me again. After we fucked she took the condom off me and rolled it all the way out..an additional 2 1/2" . "OMG, are some cocks that long?" Arrrrgh!

I could never get over how small my penis got when my penis was completely flaccid. My cavernosum felt like soft linguini noodles inside my shaft skin and the only thing showing was my glans (when I had one). There is so much variation in shrinkage of penises when flaccid that I always found it laughable that guys make fun of someone with a small flaccid penis. They might be shocked how big it is when erect. After all erect is the functional length and is what really matters. How many guys are erect in the shower or changing room or even when peeing?! I for one was always erect when with a girl even before I even undid my belt and started to pull my pants down. Just the thought of being naked in front of a girl was an instant hard-on.

@WA1NGRO & @Triasco9.5: She was a virgin before we got married forgot to mention that but I will talk with her to see if we can try some toys or me fingering her. ty

This is not specific to any one poster, but rather a general one. If anyone should be scarred for life I would be the poster boy. Name it and I was deprived. I was beaten. My sperm donor (SD) was a monster who couldn't keep his pants on for more than 10 minutes. He even killed a black man back in the days when whites could do it with no questions asked. He said the man jumped on the running board when he was stopped and reached in and grabbed him. He picked up the pistol he always carried and shot him. He lost his hat in the scuffle. Next morning the sheriff came to the door with his hat. He never left the house without it. Everyone in town knew the hat. He burned our house when I was a teen and collected the insurance. He taught us blacks had no soul. They died like dogs. From an early age I knew he was wrong. There are other stories that show how black his heart was. My point is at some point we must realize we are responsible for who and what we are. We had no control over those who were supposed to nurture us and failed. When he comes up in family conversations I call him by his given name. Some of my siblings had a problem with that. It was a way to distance myself.

@NuderThanNude I really cannot agree with the idea that words cannot hurt or that it cannot negatively or positively affect their lives. They very much can. Not everyone reacts to words the same. From what I read with your comments, you had/have a strong self worth and could understand difference in people do not make them any less. Self confidence is not something everyone has, actually I think it is more common than you might think. I grew up being bullied constantly because of my own disabilities. In many ways it made me stronger and has allowed me to be very non judgemental about other people. As long as you are a good, kind person, I really don't care about any other characteristic. But with the level of bullying I dealt with, there were times when words not only cut to the bone, they stayed with me for decades. It allowed self doubt to take hold in certain areas in my life and when those things would pop up, it just reinforced those doubts. Words are very powerful, in some case more powerful than any action. Words can allow someone to reach goals they never thought they could or take them to the depths of darkness they can never return from. Words have meaning, have power and shape our lives. It depends on the person on how they allow those words to take hold.

All of our bodies react differently to the ageing process. My orgasms are just as intense as when I was younger just not able to have as many.

@6INCHES66 Genetics. Has to be. Otherwise how to explain my "condition" at my age?

Here we go again... Trying to put the blame on everyone else but ourselves. A person with a high level of self esteem and self worth, who it in touch with reality and is a rational thinker will not care about what anyone else has or has not or what that they think. When it comes to things one cannot change they would focus on what they have, be grateful for that, and make the very best of it. As the saying goes... If life you gives you lemons - make lemonade! A person with an accurate sense of reality understands that porn industry tries to exaggerate reality because the norm isn't very interesting and doesn't make money. The same goes for the movie industry. If you have insecurities there is no doubt that the problem goes deeper than the size of your penis as compared to others. It's not the porn industries fault or a lack of sex education! I speak from experience! I have had all of the experiences that others guys with smaller than average penises have had in locker rooms, with peers and with women. I have viewed as much (or even more porn) than most here and it has never affected me negatively. I have had my share of women not having interest in me. However most times it was because of my height, not having a beard, not being muscular, not being wealthy and on and on. However I knew that there were plenty of women out there that preferred me as I am. I also realized that the type of woman who was more interested in physical characteristics was not the person who would make the best "life long partner". I'm willing to bet that I have had better sex with my small penis that a lot of guys with penises twice my size have had. As a lot of wealthy people have found... All the money in the world cannot buy happiness. The same goes for a large penis! Let's take responsibility for our insecurities and stop blaming them on others. Others cannot fix that - but only you can!

Varies a lot for me. Weather temperature makes a big difference...

Hi all. I am just wondering if anyone has thoughts on what age a man's penis stops growing? Late teens, 20s? I'm sure it various from man to man, but what is typical?

Congrats on the weight loss. I’ve been on a keto diet for 2 months and have lost 15 pounds. Keep up the good work!

Yes. That's very true Rod, for the most part the urologist I talked to told me that the "6incher" or six and a half incher that was touted as average for most of the 80s and 90s was due to men and women overestimating the size of certain people, and that by and large medical results yeild an average between 5-5.5 up to 5.75, and that its not uncommon at all for most men to just be a bit above 5 inches period. People understate what the other dimensions of that said penis will give in perception due to the underside of the dick making the length look larger, and the possible girth or shape adding to this. a 6 inch penis with a considerable girth believe it or not is a mainstay in a lot of even current day porn. you can measure that from the side and get 6-6.5 easy, but if measured from the actual top to the tip that most men are in between the five and six mark, and the tendency is to exaggerate that. I saw a dildo molded to a cock in Chrystal's the other day that was 5.6 and i could have sworn was 6.5..... but nope it was 5.6 so yes people overestimate sizes, and medicine tells us more of the truth. I even asked the girl behind the counter and she thought it was about an inch bigger than it actually was. In all of the large penis forums you will find men talking about the supposed lengths of certain actors, and they always overestimate and lie about it, most of the lengths given there are about 2 inches to large. find an 8.5 inch dildo, molded to a penis and point it up at an angle at your face......dont get any ideas, and take a good look at how the size of that object is easily overestimated at 10 11 or 12 inches, trust me it happens all the time. 8.5 is still truly a monster.

We're having some warm weather, after a cooler snap. So I've been all 3 pics this week. Naturist/nudist pics are natural, most are unlikely to have a little tug to perk things up for a pic.

A guy I am playing with lately is 2-4" soft and 7" hard, he is also a bit of a size queen. We were discussing size and quite ironically he said he loves a larger penis but finds too many guys with a bigger penis are not as passionate and have an attitude. He said 'it seems that with a large penis they think they don't have to put any effort into sex play.' I find it humourous he would say that being a larger guy himself. This was part of the discussions we had during a break in the action. Anyway today we are going kayaking, maybe find a nude beach.....or a place to run naked anyway.

I like tits great legs and sweet ass plus nothing beats a shaved smooth pussy

Yes, this is one of our favorite positions. I put her legs on my shoulders and fuck her hard. This also works for anal as well.

Yes, more use, and well more bloodflow to that area, and the fact that your true sex hormone peak happens from 20 - 25 means a bit more thickness down there, im in my 30s now and my testes are without a doubt larger than when i was a teen or early 20 something. But in those years i noticed a growth and change in color, namely a darker tinge to my genitals as i neared about 24 - 25. and more size, bnut not a striking amount lets say.

Have you ever seen a guy's penis and been surprised at what you saw? Could be big or small. Growing up I had a friend who was slim build and kind of short. He was a bit of a nerdy kid. I was sleeping over at his house one night and he crouched down to clean up his drink that he spilled. He was wearing boxers and the most enormous penis flopped out right in front of my face! I was shocked. Made me think of him differently.

Art models (paint, sculpture, drawings etc) is an easy yes as it's going to have limited spread and no matter how good, will never really be 100% quite obviously you unless you have a very specific look. Photographs can last longer, spread further and have a wider arc on your life (potentially) but at the end of the day if you model it cannot go wrong. It may bring out the bigots and body shamers but........ f&c£ them!

For years I have bought condoms online. For some puritanical reason I never felt comfortable buying them in a drug store. However, now the local CVS has a very attractive 30 something cashier and whenever I'm in the store I always get some condoms and lube for her to ring up for me. The small thrills of an old man!

@6INCHES66 I think she enjoyed the thought of something different. I doubt we will use them other than for fun.

@Nillywilly Quite correct!

Interesting story. Did Mary enjoy intercourse with the condom? I have never had sex using a condom. Out of curiosity I have masturbated with a condom a few times. I never paid any attention to the extra length of a condom. Just rolled it on my stiff cock and stroked to orgasm. When I had my vasectomy to bring to the Doctor a semen sample my wife would give me a hand job and we used a condom to contain the sample.

Actually I never thought about the excessive roll. I thought it was there to make the condom tighter at the base so nothing would leak out. When I was really young I used to look for bathrooms with condom machines (weren't many around most restaurants except for those at truck stops). I loved masturbating with a condom on. However, when I had sex with a woman I hated condoms as I couldn't feel anything with them on. The only type I would use at all was the natural lamb ones but they weren't as strong as the latex ones. Instead of condoms I would use a foam spermicide with women who I dated often. That gave the most sensation and pleasure.

Perhaps he was speaking of guys larger than himself the 8 inches and larger. Personally I think it's an individual trait and can't be pinned on a person of any specific size or range or other statistic.

Unfortunately the idea that a larger penis is better or more masculine is implanted in our heads (mostly by mean spirited people or guys that want to feel superior). If we grew up on an island by ourselves we wouldn't think any different about penis size than nose, ear, hair or size of any other part of the body. When exposed to seeing other guys we would just realize that there are variations to the size and shape of all body parts. We would have no concept of which size is better. After all who would automatically think that a long nose on a guy would be more masculine. In the same context who would automatically relate large, low hanging inner labia on a female to being more feminine. I remember when I was young and I first saw photos of women with large, hanging breasts. I never thought they were sexier or more feminine. I always thought smaller, firm, round breasts with prominent nipples were sexier and more feminine. Large breasts looked disproportionate as did large ears or a large nose on a person. The idea that larger breasts were better were planted into my head by other people. Fortunately, I never accepted it but nevertheless would never admit to my friends for fear of being ridiculed. I was fortunate in that I had concretely formed the idea that I loved the look of my small penis and felt fortunate that I didn't have a long penis hanging from me before the idea of "bigger was better" was introduced to me. At that point I didn't care what others thought.

@Triasco9.5 I love kissing and giving and receiving oral although 69 just doesn’t work for me. Taking turns works best. But I passed on anal sex. Oh, I tried it, but I was never comfortable with it. I felt it was not just “dirty”, it was downright unsanitary. As far as being on the receiving end, I told my Nasty Nurse story that was a once-in-a-lifetime experience. Now in my life I kind of wonder what I missed. My wife enjoyed anal, she wanted to do it, and she kidded me for not being enthusiastic. I will say the few times we did it we used a dildo in her pussy while I banged her from the rear, and she really liked it, I guess it counts as a “double penetration”, but I just didn’t cotton to it. Oh well, my loss.

@old n hard If I get to be your age, and I can say “maybe some day”, well that will make me very happy. Good luck in your quest!

@Triasco9.5 As with you, I can forego the kissing. Now this may sound strange but, nibble my lower lip, tongue and earlobes and my whole body reacts. As for receiving oral, can't say. That just happens to be my number one fantasy. Maybe some day.

All of the few boys I had sex with when I was a young boy had much larger penises and testicles than I had. One friend was my age and the other boy was a few years or so older. The older boy was MUCH larger. They often would make snide comments to me about how tiny my thing was. I got use to it though and would even acknowledge it when they said those things. I would just say “I know” and pretend it didn’t bother me. It actually didn’t bother me after awhile.

@Allen43 Thanks, I've had fun taking pics and sharing them, it's been quite liberating. Shame more people don't do the same given the subject matter of this forum.

I am about the same size as you. I don't know how overweight you are compared to me or your wife compared to my ex wife. My ex liked for us both to be on our left side. Me behind her. She would kind of have her left leg a little forward. Kind of hard to explain but ... Also used my hands quite a bit in this spot. She hated oral as well. Her on top facing you should work best. She is in control of whether or not you slip out.

I am not smaller than average, but I grew up with twin brother's who were very different in size. And going to friends houses over the years and swimming at public pools/ lock rooms got me to see a lot of different sizes. One of my best friends probably has a micro penis, it was basically just a button/head barely poking out of his pubic mound. Puberty just meant it got buried in pubes, one of the reasons he probably shaved most of it all off all the time. Hard he is isn't even 4 inches, because he is at least an inch shorter than his little brother, and about two inches to three shorter than I am. He never seemed that embarrassed by it except when his little brother would tease him about it when we were not around his parents. Not that his brother was hung or anything, he was average, just bigger soft than his older brother, and also bigger erect, but not even much more than 5 inches.

Guys...I did it. We got together yesterday. There were probably like 12 women and 2 men in the group. When I stripped off nobody reacted in a weird way and even my friend who brought me was really nice and didn't treat me any different afterwards. They brought in a friend of theirs who helped guide them in how to draw the body and when she talked about 'any sensitive areas' she said people were free to draw it accurately or to cover it up if they felt more comfortable. It was only a couple of hours so most people could only sketch the top half but I think three did get to the bottom half. One of them drew a fig leaf which I thought was funny lol...The other two did a decent attempt at drawing my genitals and I was surprised that for one of them it looked a bit longer than how I really am. I guess people don't really care as much about it as I thought. It was a good experience and I recommend it. They even said they would love it if I came back next month and they had me and another model side by side

https://ibb.co/M9gQ5s8 Ok so that would be me in a "ok flaccid", I mean, I variate a lot, I can be smaller than that and I also can be bigger. That's more or less thumb length. Where I am related to the pics on this thread? I'm too biased to figure it out by myself. Image it's a crop from the mirror, sorry for quality.