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Well teens often don't have high levels of self-esteem, they are still discovering themselves and looking for answers. They are in their formative years and still learning to be rational thinkers, but in reality overly emotion reactionary beings.... Where do you find answers about sex and sexuality? ...from uninformed friends, the media (in my day playboy, letters in FORUM). Distorted 1/2 truths is the source for most teens because proper education is sadly missing. Who are the role models...Kardashians? The issue of body image was addressed in one short blurb from my PE teacher in Grade 8. His lecture: Everyone has to shower after PE. You will see a lot of differences in your bodies. Some of you may have started puberty and your penises come in all shapes and sizes, they are all normal and I will not tolerate anyone talking or laughing at some one else. If the media says 5'11" with a 6.5" penis, how does a 5'5" person with a 2" flaccid penis develop self-esteem and self-worth. Teens are still impressionable kids, not miniature adults with logical reasoning skills (hell 1/2 the adults fail at critical thinking) As adults, yes we can "correct" the information rationally but it is not easy to change a mindset. Better would be to have developed a mindset based on "reality" (informed factual teaching) in the formative years. So yes I blame media AND the education system.

You raise some valid points, I've sometimes posted about the effects of porn on so many people since it is so easily accessible these days. Body image for both young men and women is distorted not only by porn, but by the endless wannabe influencers online who portray unrealistic ideals of perfection... usually with the aid of Photoshop. It's leaving many young people feeling inadequate and giving them low self esteem. As @Triasco9.5 says, the portrayal of healthy relationships on social media, music and videos is woeful. Women objectified with little or no respect, sexuality brought into question. Schools and parent need to be realistic about 21st century attitudes. Many schools refuse to address these issues for fear of offending someone. Channel 4 in the UK did a short series a few years ago about Sex Education, they had a variety of nude "normal" models (varying in age and gender) appearing to teenagers via video link. Many had never seen a normal body, the influence of porn was often mentioned. Boys feeling inadequate because they didn't measure up, girls not having hourglass figures and huge fake tits... Both ended up with unrealistic expectations of the opposite sex.

I agree and disagree. On the one hand, I agree that the porn industry and its depiction of sex and sexuality can and does have negative effects on our perception and reception of sex and one another as sexual beings. However, I disagree that porn is the problem. Like books, or movies, or video games, the medium is only half of the story. Our reaction to it is more a symptom of the larger issue, which is a general lack or ineffective education system for sexuality. Speaking for my opinion on American society specifically, we don't talk or teach about sex or sexuality in a healthy and productive way, and then we have the nerve to be surprised when people develop unhealthy attitudes and appetites navigating the waters on their own. To that end, I think the solution is education, for everyone but especially for the younger generations. Most of us already have our issues and have to work to overcome them, but the young are the ones who can change the culture, who will be the be new culture regarding sex and sexuality.

Im trying to lose the weight I’m on the keto diet I lost 7 pounds so far

This is not specific to any one poster, but rather a general one. If anyone should be scarred for life I would be the poster boy. Name it and I was deprived. I was beaten. My sperm donor (SD) was a monster who couldn't keep his pants on for more than 10 minutes. He even killed a black man back in the days when whites could do it with no questions asked. He said the man jumped on the running board when he was stopped and reached in and grabbed him. He picked up the pistol he always carried and shot him. He lost his hat in the scuffle. Next morning the sheriff came to the door with his hat. He never left the house without it. Everyone in town knew the hat. He burned our house when I was a teen and collected the insurance. He taught us blacks had no soul. They died like dogs. From an early age I knew he was wrong. There are other stories that show how black his heart was. My point is at some point we must realize we are responsible for who and what we are. We had no control over those who were supposed to nurture us and failed. When he comes up in family conversations I call him by his given name. Some of my siblings had a problem with that. It was a way to distance myself.

@NuderThanNude I really cannot agree with the idea that words cannot hurt or that it cannot negatively or positively affect their lives. They very much can. Not everyone reacts to words the same. From what I read with your comments, you had/have a strong self worth and could understand difference in people do not make them any less. Self confidence is not something everyone has, actually I think it is more common than you might think. I grew up being bullied constantly because of my own disabilities. In many ways it made me stronger and has allowed me to be very non judgemental about other people. As long as you are a good, kind person, I really don't care about any other characteristic. But with the level of bullying I dealt with, there were times when words not only cut to the bone, they stayed with me for decades. It allowed self doubt to take hold in certain areas in my life and when those things would pop up, it just reinforced those doubts. Words are very powerful, in some case more powerful than any action. Words can allow someone to reach goals they never thought they could or take them to the depths of darkness they can never return from. Words have meaning, have power and shape our lives. It depends on the person on how they allow those words to take hold.

All of our bodies react differently to the ageing process. My orgasms are just as intense as when I was younger just not able to have as many.

@6INCHES66 Genetics. Has to be. Otherwise how to explain my "condition" at my age?

Here we go again... Trying to put the blame on everyone else but ourselves. A person with a high level of self esteem and self worth, who it in touch with reality and is a rational thinker will not care about what anyone else has or has not or what that they think. When it comes to things one cannot change they would focus on what they have, be grateful for that, and make the very best of it. As the saying goes... If life you gives you lemons - make lemonade! A person with an accurate sense of reality understands that porn industry tries to exaggerate reality because the norm isn't very interesting and doesn't make money. The same goes for the movie industry. If you have insecurities there is no doubt that the problem goes deeper than the size of your penis as compared to others. It's not the porn industries fault or a lack of sex education! I speak from experience! I have had all of the experiences that others guys with smaller than average penises have had in locker rooms, with peers and with women. I have viewed as much (or even more porn) than most here and it has never affected me negatively. I have had my share of women not having interest in me. However most times it was because of my height, not having a beard, not being muscular, not being wealthy and on and on. However I knew that there were plenty of women out there that preferred me as I am. I also realized that the type of woman who was more interested in physical characteristics was not the person who would make the best "life long partner". I'm willing to bet that I have had better sex with my small penis that a lot of guys with penises twice my size have had. As a lot of wealthy people have found... All the money in the world cannot buy happiness. The same goes for a large penis! Let's take responsibility for our insecurities and stop blaming them on others. Others cannot fix that - but only you can!

Varies a lot for me. Weather temperature makes a big difference...

Congrats on the weight loss. I’ve been on a keto diet for 2 months and have lost 15 pounds. Keep up the good work!

I lost around 40 pounds. I believe my cock is 1/2-3/4 longer. Now I am about 4.5 from fat pad to the tip.

Yes. That's very true Rod, for the most part the urologist I talked to told me that the "6incher" or six and a half incher that was touted as average for most of the 80s and 90s was due to men and women overestimating the size of certain people, and that by and large medical results yeild an average between 5-5.5 up to 5.75, and that its not uncommon at all for most men to just be a bit above 5 inches period. People understate what the other dimensions of that said penis will give in perception due to the underside of the dick making the length look larger, and the possible girth or shape adding to this. a 6 inch penis with a considerable girth believe it or not is a mainstay in a lot of even current day porn. you can measure that from the side and get 6-6.5 easy, but if measured from the actual top to the tip that most men are in between the five and six mark, and the tendency is to exaggerate that. I saw a dildo molded to a cock in Chrystal's the other day that was 5.6 and i could have sworn was 6.5..... but nope it was 5.6 so yes people overestimate sizes, and medicine tells us more of the truth. I even asked the girl behind the counter and she thought it was about an inch bigger than it actually was. In all of the large penis forums you will find men talking about the supposed lengths of certain actors, and they always overestimate and lie about it, most of the lengths given there are about 2 inches to large. find an 8.5 inch dildo, molded to a penis and point it up at an angle at your face......dont get any ideas, and take a good look at how the size of that object is easily overestimated at 10 11 or 12 inches, trust me it happens all the time. 8.5 is still truly a monster.

So, I'm creating this post in order to cover this topic for alot of peope here who might not have considered the viewpoint im about to share. Overall, I am quite sure most of us here are aware of how porn has effected the sexual mentality of men. Moreover, Id say its effected female perception of us as well, that and I don't think a lot of young dudes understand how porn has changed over the years. For instance, back in the nanites and early 2000s it was no uncommon to see some average sized men in porn, today that's more of a rarity. Material of the kind your able to find today was sparse in those days, yet now a 10 year old can get on a computer , search and see some of the craziest stuff imaginable. Looking back in hindsight, I can see how I perceived myself as a teenager almost 20 years ago, compare that with how I see myself now, and the effect that porn had on me was astonishing. I truly believed the normal size for a penis was 6-7 inches, and if you were below the 6 inch mark you were behind everyone around you in highschool. My reason for mentioning that is simply this, once I learned that the average size was actually 5-6 inches, my mind was not able to accept it, even the opinions of girls who actually agreed with this wouldn't help, its a insidious cognitive dissonance. The funny thing is, is that a 6.5 inch penis of decent girth is BIG, one of my bf's was that size and said most girls thought so, 7.5 is massive. I don't want the post to seem like a rant or a tangent, but I guess what I was getting at was a hopeful discussion on this to not only help others, but to get some concurrence on this, its simply a reality that the actual average is 5.1 to 5.5 measured from the top , and i must emphasize "from the top" I think there are some people who don't understand that still even after all this time. 5.1 to 5.5 isn't actually that small believe it or not, and straight up 6 inches is decent. There a incongruence of perception amongst men , how they see themselves, and I think there is also an unawareness among women who judge the actual size of what they are getting. Pornography is the main culprit, and it has ruined sexuality for the average male. I am trying to imagine a situation in which any of us can do something about it either.....thoughts?

@Triasco9.5 Those were different times. He was born in 1896. Today he would be in prison. I'd see to it.

I am really glad this thread header was corrected to “Recoup Time” from “Recup Time”.

@NuderThanNude I agree and disagree. You're right, but my entire point was that it had to be taught, so I agree with you saying that people have to take responsibility and teach it. But people are less likely to ridicule things different from them if they understand that the difference doesn't actually mean anything in terms of worth . And people are less likely to take offense to such ignorant ridicules if THEY know that the difference doesn't mean worth. It's about education, sexual in one sense and simply relational in the other. More generally to your point, I think that words do have the power to hurt, especially when people are fed those messages all their life. And regarding penis size, if porn is all you really see, or even the vast majority of what you're exposed to in terms of sexuality, then not only is the view of size skewed, so it's the view of sexuality. And people may ask possess the capability to ignore messages or words about their bodies or behavior, but, just like the capacity for empathy or the ability to ride a bike, some people can't utilize that until they are taught how. I mention empathy specifically because what confidence is for you, empathy is for me. I was able to recognize and understand the emotions of others from an early age, without being taught. for a long time, I couldn't understand why others couldn't do the same. Because we're not all the same, and some of us come into different capacities at different times through different circumstances. What's more, just telling people to toughen up and realize that words can't hurt them ignores the very real problem of the person who spoke the words in the first place. At best, they are ignorant, as we all are in our own ways. at worst, they are not only hurtful, but can be indicative of larger social problems. Hence, I saw address both by letting everyone know that, for instance penis size is just a measure of penis size, not manhood, virility, sexual prowess, confidence, etc. Hence, education.

Yes it was about 9 months ago. Which is what brought me to this site

No I wasn't, I'm taking her word on it

I'm going to guess around age 16, I don't remember actually measuring myself till my early twenties. Maybe I didn't really want to know, because I instinctively knew I would be disappointed.

Oh how I miss the days of orgasms on demand. Always envious of my wifes ability to have 5 or 6 orgasms in a row when we were sexually active. Then recover and have a few more minutes later. Intercourse 2 or 3 times in a hour. These days 2 or 3 a week orgasms' are the norm. Never more than one in a day.

@old n hard You probably don’t have his money, either LOL.

@Nillywilly Too bad I don't look like the late George Burns. LOL

@canuck45 Got you by 15 years and I can do what you do. If only I had a partner. Not bragging. Feeling blessed. I could make a 30-something beg for mercy. If only.

I'm sure the urologist has seen all shapes and sizes, but I think I'd also feel a little uncomfortable being injected to get an erection and have a doctor examine me like that! I'm a grower also, and I do enjoy being seen small and shrunken when at naturist clubs, sounds crazy but its boosted my confidence to be unafraid. I met my ex at an event, kind of odd being naked on a first date... she was quite surprised at my growth.

OK I get it I shouldn't be complaining

We're having some warm weather, after a cooler snap. So I've been all 3 pics this week. Naturist/nudist pics are natural, most are unlikely to have a little tug to perk things up for a pic.

My buddy and I vary from 1-3 soft. He grows to 7" and I to 5".

Yep, so many factors here, people measure in different places, "bone pressing" measures, and the add an inch for ego. The average size argument trundles on. I've had people saying I'm big based on pics I've posted, but I've never considered myself anything but average. I am thicker than average, and when I look at pics I think I look shorter! So yes, difficult to estimate, even your own cock sometimes!

@smallgrower - Mine fully retracts also and only about ½ inch of shaft skin sticks out and I love that it does. The majority of the time I don't need a penis hanging out of my body and getting in the way and I am not interested in putting on a show for anyone. The penis retracts for a good reason when flaccid and that is a good thing. Be thankful you don't have one hanging out all day and it is protected inside your body. As long as it extends when you need it all is good.

Fair enough, With all things considered I guess I understand your meaning, and the point of starting this thread certainly wasn't to cosmically abandon any sort of responsiblity, that being said it was a bit rash for me to make the harsh judgement of your comment . You are correct, personal responsibility is at the end of the day all we have any many cases. My belief though is it doesn't hurt to raise awareness if one can.

If they didn't have the power to hurt, we wouldn't have so many counsellors, psychologists or a need this website. . 50000+ or more guys here with various levels of insecurity, I think your precociousness as a child is the exception not the rule. And why did it take so long, until your teens, to correct the errors. Perhaps those that don't react are the ones that are deficient. Psychopathy: impaired empathy, egotistical traits. Is telling others how they "should" acting egotistical? Is telling others "there is no reason to feel that way" a lack of empathy, compassion or understanding? I think people that decide how others "should" act, what the should or shouldn't feel, and seeing others as deficient, because they don't behave/think the same way, have a lot of unresolved issues that they are denying...probably since childhood. .

That would be like telling your eyes not close when you sneeze. It is a way for the body to protect itself. I do know where you are coming from; shrinkage can get downright uncomfortable. I think my creamaster muscle is the strongest one in my body.

@Jason E You were there to see it?

@mbit Nope, this has been going one since I was 20 and I am now 52. It has not mattered what I weighed. Even down at 170 lbs, it was happening.

You must have been an outstanding child....

@NuderThanNude But realizations like what you're describing don't just happen. Socialization, or the things we learn passively about the world through institutions like family, friends, school, and media, is a very real force. Just as much as we can't put the blame just on those things, I think it's just as much of an oversimplification for us to say people just need to "realize" what sexuality is for themselves.

Unfortunately (or fortunately) who we are at an early age depends a lot on our parents and how good a job they do at helping us to develop our self esteem and to have a accurate sense of reality. That means not shielding us from reality or babying us like a lot of parents do . I started off in school with a handicap as my parents just squeezed me in to school because of my age. That meant I was nearly a year younger that most kids in my class. At that age a year difference meant a lot. Despite that I was still small compared to kids my age. I was made fun of and bullied because of how short and thin I was. However I knew that being small gave me certain advantages. When they chased me I was faster and I could get through small spaces and get away from them. I was smart enough to realize that it wasn't my fault that I was small - we are all born with particular physical characteristics and don't have a say in the matter. I knew that with everything there are advantages and disadvantages. I just had to find ways to use my small size to my advantage. It wasn't rocket science. I could have crawled in a corner and felt sorry for myself but my parents didn't raise me that way. The same things I learned about dealing with my small stature in my eary years later helped in my teens with dealing with my small penis size. For me, Superman and Popeye was my role models. First by realizing flaccid size means nothing and second by realizing that bigger doesn't mean better. Was the kid with the big nose or the one with the big ears better? I wasn't brought up to be gullible and believe everything others told me.

@NuderThanNude From the standpoint of an adult...yes reality is exaggerated in porn and that's well understood, but not to the developing mind of a kid, you cant take a look at the sheer volume of extreme material in porn and say that it hasn't had an effect.

ive worn mesh before, but never such an open mesh. i most likely get caught up in a mesh the wide open, or at very least have my pubic hair sticking through the openings.

@old n hard I know how you can get a 30-yo girlfriend. Tell her you’re 90.

Bragging is a fault and I don't have any :-)

Lucky you. I wish I could have a round one sometimes . (lack of partner) Anyways - I agree with you. Ageing sucks indeed. I have noticed that when I cum it feels like not all of the juices come out. Its like something is holding back the fluids. And it feels less good,. I ejaculate less...and not shooting at all . Just dribbing. My recovery time is not changed tough. I was always a fast recoverer. (It is harder to get hard at start - thats teh result of aging for me)

At 58 I'm lucky to have a first round. 2nd rounds are ancient memories.

@canuck45 Aging still beats the heck out of dying!

I'm hung like a chipmunk. Many of the women I've slept with have probably been unsatisfied with my size but for some reason have stuck around. I've always felt I made up for my shortcomings in other ways. If not, it's time to move on. Speaking of moving on, canuck45 mentions he goes kayaking. Is that like "It's not the size of the boat but the motion in the ocean"? I'd give that a try. Speaking of boats, I was in the Navy. I had a gay friend who used to sing a song to me whenever we showered together at the gym. It went something like "You've got the cutest little dinghy in the Navy."

All of the few boys I had sex with when I was a young boy had much larger penises and testicles than I had. One friend was my age and the other boy was a few years or so older. The older boy was MUCH larger. They often would make snide comments to me about how tiny my thing was. I got use to it though and would even acknowledge it when they said those things. I would just say “I know” and pretend it didn’t bother me. It actually didn’t bother me after awhile.

Indeed, I guess he was referring more to my girth than my length, because my hard cock is pretty thin. But actually, although his injections was to make me hard, I was not excited at all and a bit intimidated, so I had a semi hard cock that looked like a small hard cock (like 5 inches). That can explain why he saw my cock like both a thin and a short cock. But I recognize that I am a big grower and go from a small to pretty big cock. And the SPH in me pushes me to be naked in a lot of naturist situations to show my thin soft noodle

mine has tanned, but usually same skin tone as the rest of my body.

Sure! Not only is it possible, but I'm happy to share my experiences! That's why I'm here after all I think I have this story posted in my profile somewhere, but it all started with this guy that I hooked up with. He was an all around short guy. We're both 5'6" on the mark, so I couldn't wear heels around him (well, I eventually found out I don't care about being taller, but this was where it started). His body was beautiful and very proportional, so his penis was smaller, too. I guessed by looking at it that it must have been around 3.5-4" erect. I was married at the time and had only ever been with my husband and I had this intense need to know if my marital problems were a result of never "getting it out of my system," so sleeping with this guy had enormous emotional pressure on top of the normal pressures of having sex with a new person. But what happened is to this day one of my best sexual experiences ever. When he penetrated me I felt this intense wave of pleasure take over my whole body, even making me lose consciousness a little bit. It was like he had pricked a hole (heheh. sex puns.) in a damb of pent up sexual hunger that erupted over me with an intensity I never thought possible. Of course, he was pent up, too, so it didn't last for but a minute or so! But we slept with each other many times and I became orgasmic with him, and then multi-orgasmic with him. So that's where it started. After that I noticed that I had the best sex with the least endowed partners. When I found this website it just felt like my moral obligation to share my experience. My current (and hopefully last!) boyfriend is also a member of the smaller crowd. But I enjoy him so much that I'm actually thinking I may not need or want anybody else, which is a big deal for me since I'm polyamorous. So, anyway, I love sex and I love men and I love that men having penises enables me to have sex, so I'm just trying to spread that love. I wish all people could experience the joy that I do so I'm just trying to share as best I know.